the random scats of a thoughtered soul in transit

22 June 2008

atheism

so i'm reading a new book (no surprise there)--on athiesm. it is by ravi zacharias, called the end of reason. it is response to the new atheists, and a direct response to a letter written by sam harris entitled letter to a christian nation. thus far, it's quite interesting. granted, i am only on page 22, but it is promising. i started a debate at work with a co-worker just due to boredom the other day--he is a self proclaimed atheist. the other guy in the conversation is agnostic. i threw out my challenge (and was about laughed out of the room): i told him i do not believe there is such a thing as an atheist. we didn't get to go into much conversation, but i have a feeling this will turn into a massacre of thoughts between the two of us while at work (what else is there to do at circuit city? sell stuff? that would require customers to come into the store...)
to my atheist friends: prove to me there is not a God. it is such a lonely existance, to not have something to believe in, hold on to... if we are simply here to live in this world and die, what is the point of living? that is something i don't understand...

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

It isn't necessary to prove that God doesn't exist. That would require proving that the gnome dancing on your shoulder doesn't exist or that your imaginary friend from first grade doesn't exist. No proposition is immediately granted the benefit of existing, including God. Until shown to exist, it is assumed that God isn't there. And a need to not feel lonely or lost is not proof of existence, rather it is a good reason to be even firmer in your demand for evidence before you believe.

emily said...

the need to not feel lonely does not prove existance--never did i say that it did. blind faith, just for the sake of faith, is not what i am about. a belief in God is not mindless reason and without evidence.
as far as the gnome on your shoulder: do you, and millions of others, attribute the creation of the world to this gnome? or the imaginary friend? it is not a belief by one, but by millions. the belief in the gnome or imaginary friend is quite small in comparison. it doesn't hold up; thousands of people have died for their belief in God (not talking about the suicide bombers or the Crusades--look at the 12 apostles who followed Jesus and the death they endured due to their belief in God. go from there... there are thousands).
as far as a response to this:
No proposition is immediately granted the benefit of existing, including God.
prove to me there is such a thing as wind. does it exist? how do you know if it does? is it because you believe what others tell you of the wind, or what you have experienced? so is the proposition of wind granted the benefit of existence, or must it be denyed since you can't see it? yet you see the effects of the wind... just as you can see the effects of God.